Title Image

Don Xml's Grok This

The home of Don Demsak
Welcome to Don Xml's Grok This Sign in | Help
in Search

DonXml's Grok This

Online Ticket Auctions – The Solution to Half Empty Professional Sporting Events?

One of the things that really bug me is when owners of professional sporting team complain about half empty arenas.  It doesn’t take an MBA degree to understand the simple laws of economics.  In order to sell all of your inventory (aka the tickets) you will have to set the price at a level your customers are willing to pay.  Set the price to high, and you have inventory left over.  Set the prices too low, and a secondary market will develop reselling your inventory at a higher price (in this case ticket scalping).  It seems to me that the owners of teams are stuck in the past and haven’t figured out that with the mass adoption of the internet, you no longer have to go with fixed prices for all your tickets.  In the old world, the owners and managers needed to set the prices before the beginning of a season, and then hope for the best.  With the internet and all the online services it offers, you no longer have to fix the prices for the whole season.  I’m not saying to get rid of season tickets, just that there really isn’t much of a reason to stick with a constant price for tickets that are not part of some sort of package.  Why not sell all the tickets that are not part of a package via StubHub like auctions?  It would insure that every single ticket could actually be sold, at the current market value. 

The reason why tickets are left unsold is the fact that the people have determined that the value of going to that particular event is less then the price of the ticket.  If the owners of the teams think that a full house is that important, why not auction them off?  This way every single ticket would be sold at a price equal to the perceived value.  The software for auctions is out there and is proven, so the technical details are not the problem.

Part of the problem is that the owners do not want to raise the ire of the season ticket holders (which are most large corporations).  If the owners charge $70 a ticket for a seat in a season ticket plan, but the average auction price is only $35, the season ticket holder will wonder why they are paying $70 a ticket.  The extra money charged is really the extra value of knowing that you have the same seats to every game in that package.  I really don’t think this will be an issue, but I’m sure some will disagree.  One of the to temper an potential issue would be to let the season ticket holder resell the tickets they do not want thru the same auction system the owner is using (for a small fee).  This way the owner get the guaranteed revenue via the season ticket holder, but for that risk, the ticket holder could recoup some of their costs by selling tickets for events they don’t wish to attend.  There is no guarantee that the ticket will, sell, but that is part of the risk the season ticket holder assumed from the beginning.

A major side benefit of something like this would be all the data collected by this process.  With it an owner could use it to better determine the prices for the season ticket packages for the next season, which visiting teams have the best (or worst) value, and what exactly the true value actually is.  For the single ticket buyers the benefits would be just as great.  You would be able to purchase tickets at true market value.  But the most important benefit (in my eyes) would be if the owners sold their tickets directly, instead of thru Ticketmaster.  Ticketmaster is a monopoly that needs to be taken out.  All their extra fees are driving up the total cost of going to an event, and that is money out of the pockets of the owners.  It is in the owners best interests to bypass Ticketmaster, and eliminate their stranglehold on the ticket selling business.

Technorati tags:

Published Sunday, January 29, 2006 8:15 PM by donxml
Filed under:

Comment Notification

If you would like to receive an email when updates are made to this post, please register here

Subscribe to this post's comments using RSS

Comments

James Curran said:

Well, as a former Ticketron employee, I agree that Ticketmaster is evil and must be destoryed (and if we'd done this 15 years ago, I might still have that job...)

The problem I have with auction tickets is the time factor: How long do these auctions go on? And more importantly, Does the entire stadium go up for auction at the same time?

The second question is key, because the system would only work if you stagger the closing --- I'm only going to start bidding seriously on tickets in section 105 after I know I've lost the tickets in section 104. But, if we sell tickets section by section, staggered by 10 minute (sec104 closes at 1pm, sec 105 at 1:10pm etc), you'll be asking people to waste a whole day on a transaction which would normally take them 10 minutes.

Or, we could make the "sections" bigger. Ground level at 1pm, first tier at 2pm, second tier at 3pm. But -- how much would you bid for a ticket knowing only the level, and not knowing if it's by home plate or the foul pole?

One way this might be able to work, if losing bids were to (optionally) automatically roll over to the next auction. (You'd get an email like "You've been out bid for Sec 105. Your now top bid for section 106.")


January 31, 2006 12:37 PM

matt said:

I am very intrigued by this posting. I work for www.ticketauction.net and we have discussed this idea in great detail with consultants. After a few test calls it seems like the biggest problem the stadiums have is not the ire of the season ticket holders, but rather the anger of customers who would automatically assume that the auctioning of tickets was meant to simplly rip off the customers by making ticket sales like 'legal scalping.'

I think ticketmaster's recent institution of auctions, and the fact that some bands (fall out boy, for one) are using auctions to sell seats, will slowly break down the remaining barriers to using this method.

The biggest remaining question would seem to be whether one site, like ticketmaster, or our site, would or should host most of the sales, or whether each stadium or concert venue or theater would have their own auctions hosted on their own sites. I am very interested to hear your ideas.. lemme know what your thoughts are...
February 5, 2006 2:56 AM

Leave a Comment

(required) 
(optional)
(required) 
Submit

About donxml

I’m an independent consultant, specializing in .Net solutions architecture, based out of New Jersey who also doubles as an evangelist for XML, Domain Driven Design, enterprise architecture and .Net. I do not work for Microsoft, the W3C or any other big company that you may know of (at least not yet). I’ve been an indie for over ten years, and although I’ve been tempted a couple times to take a job with companies like Microsoft, I’ve haven’t found something better than my current situation. I work mostly with the large pharmaceuticals that are based here in New Jersey, and usually find myself on long term contracts. Definitely not the prototypical indie consultant, but it lets me dedicate time to my non-income generating activities like the developer community stuff, plus financing open source projects like XPathmania and MVP-XML. If you would like to talk to me about doing some contract work, just contact me via the contact page. My rates vary widely, depending on lots of different variables, but mostly distance from Jersey, and type of work. Plus, I’ve been known to donate some of my code for various projects.
Powered by Community Server, by Telligent Systems