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Financing Community Blogs

Robert McLaws and the others from Interscape started LonghornBlogs.com 5 months ago, and the popularity has been so overwhelming that they have exceeded their current infrastructure, and need to spend some serious cash to keep up with demand.  The problem is that LonghornBlogs is a free community site, and is totally financed thru Interscape.  There are a couple standard ways to support a free community site, get backing from a major vendor (in this case Microsoft), add banner ads to the website, or create a Paypal donation account.   Robert doesn’t want to accept money from Microsoft (and I think Microsoft wants this site to be independent, too), and doesn’t want to add banner adds.  He has a couple other ideas, and is soliciting for others.

Eventually the major blog sites out there are going to run into the same problem.  Scoble has mentioned that he is also interested in new ideas.  I’ve been thinking about this stuff for a while.  Although I have no problems with my current hosting provider, this type of stuff is interesting to me.  What I’d suggest is to throw out the traditional website financing ideas and take advantage of the blogging model.  The majority of regulars to a blog use aggregators, so banner ads don’t work in that situation.  Plus, banner ads do not wind up in web search engines.  The best way to generate revenue for a blog site is via a blog entry.  They get index in web search engines, get included in the main feeds, and can be posted to a specific category.  If the post is done in good taste, and is done in the same style as the rest of the site, it can avoid the spam tag.  What that means is that in a site like mine or LonghornBlogs, it would need to be done as code example or explain what the product is about (in typical blogging style).  I’ve posted entries advertising different products that I use on my blog, and have done it not to get paid but to help the community learn about some of these cool tools.  I’ve been approached by companies (who will remain nameless) trying to get me to blog about their product, so to me this is a natural evolution.  The problem with using this approach in a community site arrangement is that the community has to agree not to sidestep our benefactors and not write blog entries for companies that may pay to advertise on the community site.  That said, it should be alright to discuss things that the community doesn’t like about the advertised products.

What I’d suggest is to create a separate blog category (or feed) that is also included in the main feed, and post somewhere between 7 to 15 ads per month via that blog.  The category or blog also needs to be clearly marked as paid for advertising.  If you charge somewhere between $100 and $250 per entry (the fewer the entries the higher the cost), you could generate about $1500 a month which should cover the cost of hosting the community site.  Each entry should be kept up for a limited amount of time (say 3 months), and then deleted.  The advantages this system has over banners is that everyone gets to see the ads (via website and rss viewers), and it also contributes to the “Google Juice” of a product (which as bloggers we use to our advantage all the time anyway).  Also long as the ads are done in a similar style to the rest of the site, it will fit in with the site and not take away from it.

DonXML Demsak

Published Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:33 PM by donxml
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Robert McLaws said:

These are great ideas. My question is this: would people start to lose credibility if they are paid to blog about a product? How would the community react? I'm acutely aware of this stuff, because I talk about my products in my blog, and I get naysayers all the time yelling at me for hawking my wares.

Your thoughts?
January 17, 2004 8:45 PM

DonXML Demsak said:

Robert,
I understand what your concerns are, and that is why I suggest a separate blog for the advertisements. Something similar to the CommunityAdmin blog, maybe just called Sponsors. At the beginning of each post to this blog, clearly mark in a paid for advertising. Some thing: “The following is a paid for advertisement and is used to help defer the cost of supporting this community”.
January 18, 2004 7:56 AM

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January 19, 2004 8:45 AM

Darrell said:

What Don is talking about is basically the Gizmodo blog (http://www.gizmodo.com/). Last I heard he wasn't breaking even yet. In general, only the top tier blog sites (and probably aggregates, such as weblogs.asp.net) will ever make enough to cover the costs.

I'm not trying to be skeptical. I just don't see a good business model emerging yet...
January 19, 2004 9:07 AM

DonXML Demsak said:

It doesn't seem to be the same thing. They are aggregating links to other sites and calling it a weblog. Plus they are selling advertising space on their pages.

What I'm talking about is interjecting ads within the aggegated content of the community blog entries. Sort of like the way commercials are added to your favorite TV shows. The individual blog entries is the community's "show" and the added advertising goes towards paying for the "show".
January 19, 2004 11:25 AM

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January 26, 2004 8:00 AM

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January 26, 2004 1:16 PM

cigars said:

It's not a bad idea from a company's point of view. I work for a company that sells <a href="http://www.cubancrafters.com/index.php">cigars</a>. We have different categories of products. Including <a href="http://www.cubancrafters.com/accessories_list.php/catid/27/category/CUBAN+CRAFTERS+HUMIDORS">humidors</a>, and <a href="http://www.cubancrafters.com/accessories_list.php/catid/15/category/CUBAN+CRAFTERS+CIGAR+CUTTERS">cigar cutters</a>. There is a difference between interjecting ads for cigars, humidors or cigar cutters, or just having a banner that states sponsored by. Stadiums do it, and even big government building are named for substantial contributors. This is even done in the academic settings when large contributors pay for the building. You can't be snooty when it comes to funding a good project.
April 4, 2004 1:58 PM

john beck said:

What that means is that in a site like mine or LonghornBlogs, it would need to be done as code example or explain what the product is about (in typical blogging style).
August 19, 2006 6:35 AM

Loosely Coupled // Tim Marman's Weblog said:

Mike Gunderloy (Larkware News) points to an ad brokerage for RSS feeds . Interesting idea. How effective

October 10, 2006 1:27 PM

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I’m an independent consultant, specializing in .Net solutions architecture, based out of New Jersey who also doubles as an evangelist for XML, Domain Driven Design, enterprise architecture and .Net. I do not work for Microsoft, the W3C or any other big company that you may know of (at least not yet). I’ve been an indie for over ten years, and although I’ve been tempted a couple times to take a job with companies like Microsoft, I’ve haven’t found something better than my current situation. I work mostly with the large pharmaceuticals that are based here in New Jersey, and usually find myself on long term contracts. Definitely not the prototypical indie consultant, but it lets me dedicate time to my non-income generating activities like the developer community stuff, plus financing open source projects like XPathmania and MVP-XML. If you would like to talk to me about doing some contract work, just contact me via the contact page. My rates vary widely, depending on lots of different variables, but mostly distance from Jersey, and type of work. Plus, I’ve been known to donate some of my code for various projects.
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