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Nautilus Project Team? Spelunking Corporate Secrets Thru Public Job Postings

Chris Sells mentions that MS has 25 SDE positions with the keyword “Avalon” advertised on their public job listings.  Now, since I’m always interested in things Avalon related, I decide to search the complete job posts, and not just for SDE positions.  What did I find but at total of 37 positions, of which one is for a Software Architect, 3 are for Program Managers, and one Program Manager Management.  Now, the PMM spot is very interesting since in mentions the Nautilus Project Team:

Nautilus is a small, focused team within the Developer Division charged with creating exciting, new, leading edge tools targeting Longhorn. While components of Nautilus are slated to ship as part of Visual Studio and other future tools, we are building a complete framework and tool using a clean slate approach to architecture and user experience.

That little bit of info now begs me to search on Nautilus within the job postings, which brings back 5 positions.  The PM position provides even more info about the Nautilus team:

Nautilus is creating a modular, highly-extensible architecture for development tools. A key pillar of this architecture is centralized metadata. Sophisticated development tools must integrate a wide variety of data such as project information, build descriptions, syntactic and semantic models of programs, source control data, and profiling results. You will be responsible for defining and executing the long-term plans for straightforward integration of data sources into the development environment and aggregated programmatic access to that data. Delivering the development metadata strategy and implementation will require working with architects across the Developer Division to understand the various data sources, metadata, and technologies being constructed and how they can be integrated. A deep understanding of development tools needs, end-user, and ISV customer scenarios is crucial.

Wow!  That sure looks like NDA material to me (if I actually had heard of this project team prior to this search you I wouldn’t have blogged it, worrying about my NDA, but that isn’t the case so here it is).  I’ve blogged about this before, corporations really need to monitor all public facing sites for NDA leaks, especially job postings.

Published Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:49 PM by donxml

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mearls@hotmail.com (Michael Earls) said:

Or not, perhaps this is EXACTLY the kind of press they want... ;)
May 18, 2005 10:50 PM

Pete said:

Don,

Spelunking for corporate secrets is a good phrase for it. This same technique can be applied to what consulting work is available out there (and who has the work). As a consultant, we've seen sometimes 10 head hunter ads for the same job. It's doesn't take much to add the info together and determine a reasonable answer of who has the work. Most of the time if smells like a horse, you get a horse. Or least figure out it's an animal with 4 legs!

There is alot of info in job ads.

Needing a Guinness right about now,
Pete
May 19, 2005 12:35 PM

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May 19, 2005 1:01 PM

Chris Bowen said:

Hi Don,

Very good points about companies needing to be careful about what details they post on jobs.

In the comments of one of my posts last year, Scott Galloway asked about Nautilus and Mark Anders:

http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/ChristopherBowen/archive/2004/09/23/26628.aspx

-Chris

May 26, 2005 11:44 AM

LarsBerg said:

In this particular case, I (as hiring manager for several of those positions) was careful to get the text screened by my management. Nothing in any of those job descriptions is NDA... but it's also not nearly as informative as you'd probably like, either :-)
June 6, 2005 3:59 AM

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I’m an independent consultant, specializing in .Net solutions architecture, based out of New Jersey who also doubles as an evangelist for XML, Domain Driven Design, enterprise architecture and .Net. I do not work for Microsoft, the W3C or any other big company that you may know of (at least not yet). I’ve been an indie for over ten years, and although I’ve been tempted a couple times to take a job with companies like Microsoft, I’ve haven’t found something better than my current situation. I work mostly with the large pharmaceuticals that are based here in New Jersey, and usually find myself on long term contracts. Definitely not the prototypical indie consultant, but it lets me dedicate time to my non-income generating activities like the developer community stuff, plus financing open source projects like XPathmania and MVP-XML. If you would like to talk to me about doing some contract work, just contact me via the contact page. My rates vary widely, depending on lots of different variables, but mostly distance from Jersey, and type of work. Plus, I’ve been known to donate some of my code for various projects.
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